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Sexy Beijing - Sexy San BaPosted by Banyue on Friday, April 6, 2007 at 11:28 AM
March 8, or 'san ba' in Chinese is International Women's Day, a holiday that is traditionally celebrated with much official support in China. But 'san ba' is also a rather insulting way to refer to a woman. In this episode of Sexy Beijing, Su Fei finds out why the country that wants women to hold up half the sky uses the date of their own holiday to put them down. The video is also viewable on Tudou (中文字幕), which should be faster if you're in China and with Chinese subtitles. All Danwei TV programs are also archived at Danwei.tv. Cosmopolitan magazine plays a role in this episode; for more on women in Chinese magazines, see this Danwei post: Images of women in Chinese magazines. Sexy Beijing is now on its own website: check the latest episodes at www.sexybeijing.tv |
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Comments on Sexy Beijing - Sexy San Ba
I love these Sexy Beijing episodes.
I think that it's interesting that the insult 三八 isn't linked to 三八妇女节 by any of the interviewees. That's how I have always heard it explained by Chinese -- just like "feminist" is used as an insult by some.
Also, the woman in yellow's first 无所谓 == "don't give a shit" ? I guess she did have that attitude about her... :)
One of the best ones yet. Good work!
Yea, I thought the translation of 无所谓 as "don't give a shit" was a little like putting words in her mouth, but it did produce the desired result of having at least one interviewee with a strong opinion among the mostly polite PC answers.
Good episode none the less.
A friend of mine at 南大 wrote her dissertation about feminist theories. She told me her classmates called her a freak afterwards and the dissertation committee literally laughed at her during her defense. Holding Up Half The Sky seems to have been mostly rhetoric that no one actually believes when they aren't forced to (like so many other things).
This video is great. I've experienced some of the same replies when asking people about women's progress. Either they don't care, don't know how to respond or they will say oh yes yes, great progress. Lots of progress. Look at all the work women do. But have no concrete examples for me.
Great episode! "san ba" smacker is great! :-) Keep up the good work!
Very good episode as usual, SanBa Smacker is really awesome. Keep up the excellent work, nice way to learn Chinese through this!
Love you Sufei
Perfect.
Smacker rocks! So does Su Fei. More Sexy Beijing!
Yeah! Smacker is an instant cult figure!
Hmm, I wasn't impressed by this one. When the old man said "men used to hit women", why didn't Sue point out that they still do? Women's lot in China has improved but at the same time they are also still exploited and mistreated.
These are short videos, but it is frustrating to see obvious and necessary questions/points being ignored.
And everyone wonders why chinese women flock to western men.
"Women's lot in China has improved but at the same time they are also still exploited and mistreated."
It may be true, but the same (or similar) can be said about women in the west and most places in the world. For instance, Western feminists still decry the unequal pay between men and women. In academia (my profession) we constantly hear about how fewer women than men end up becoming professors, despite the equal proportions of the two sexes as graduate students.
In short, geneder inequality is a universal phenomenon. Some cultures are doing better in certain aspects while others prevail in another.
On the other hand, an analogous comment can be made about the geneder inequality. For some issues, it seems easier being a male, while for others it seems easier being a female. I know it's not always this simple, but it's not always so black and white, neither.
I thought I would be the firs to point out the translations were a bit over-the-top.
Oh well.
By the way, the interviews might have a bit more informative if the subjects were asked over what time frame women's lives had improved. Were they talking since 1949 or about the post-Cultural Revolution era? Although I guess they would give the same cookie cutter answers.
Ahhh new episode of sexy Beijing, nice...
I'm not surprised by the response at all. I mean if you randomly ask people off the street about feminism don't expect to find deep revealing results. Overall I think there has been improvements with regard to gender equalities.
I mean ask anyone what a proper traditional Confucius family is suppose to be. Especially ask my grandfather.
Personally I think true gender equality can not happen. I don't think it's possible to have an equilibrium state of true equality between women and men.
It won't happen just like true equality between humans beings can ever happen.
Am I sounding like a sexist pig now?
Even though I am a Chinese female living in the US, it is still shocking for me to see women presented like objects of erotic desires, which is not a bad thing in itself but concerning in this case in the proliferation of it. My impression may be biased based the selected magazine covers shown but those apparently are widely read titles. Maybe this is a clandestine way to get porn out there since Playboy is not allowed?
As the western world is now realizing these starved and sexualized images can seriously distort the mind of a young child or woman I wonder if anyone has taken a look in China to see if bulimia and anorexics are spreading these days.
When I participated in a Virgina Monologue production in US I was surprised to learn that the V-monologue based V-day performance have been produced all over the world: including Japan, Thailand, and Philippines, but not in China. I think I know why now.
That would be a fun production to do in China when the audience is ready some day.
"Even though I am a Chinese female living in the US, it is still shocking for me to see women presented like objects of erotic desires"
Here's a shocker: straight men all over the world see women as objects of desire, that's how babies are made.
Vagina Monologues was shown once in Shanghai in a small theatre. It was pulled after that.
I see where moo is coming from. Sex is very commercialized, especially in the west. I can see this being bad for a young child. Everywhere you look you see the sexualization of 12 year olds.
I'm guilty of this.
On the other hand perhaps it's not as bad as the over commercialization of violence. People tell me that on European t.v there is more sex than violence, versus more violence than sex on American t.v. Is this a generalization?
In this respect mainland t.v is very conservative. You don't have much sex and violence. Definitely more violence than sex...
"It may be true, but the same (or similar) can be said about women in the west and most places in the world."
Geez, not the 'but it happens everywhere' excuse AGAIN!
I have heard this so many times, it's ridiculous. Who cares if it's worldwide - if someone implies women aren't beaten any more they need to be challenged on that point, regardless of where they are.
We love Smacker! This episode was great! Well done and thanks a lot :-)
the chinese culture is very broad...
I know a little English.
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terrific episode. great job guys!
i do think some of the translations went a little fast and loose -- she didn't say 'bastard', and she didn't say 'i don't give a shit' -- i think you should be careful interpreting into strong language when it isn't in the original text...
she spoke plainly, but not coarsely.
nice interview style sufei! i would not want to imagine someone walking up to my grandmother and asking her about San Ba, but if it had to be someone, it would be you.
good ideas,
the best film. i)
"San Ba" originated in Hongkong, why? ask Hongkong guys,
actually, this word is seldom used or speaked ,even not used in mainland..please don't ask mainland people,especially old persons this word, it's just local language phenomenon, whick i think will be phased out as time go.